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Hybridization: building bridges between generations, sectors, places or even uses


Interview with Gabrielle Halpern by Stéphane Brunerie, published in Stripfood, May 11, 2021


Who are you, Gabrielle Halpern ?

I am a centaur! More specifically, I have a doctorate in philosophy, a graduate and associate researcher at the Ecole Normale Supérieure. At the same time, I worked for several years in different ministerial offices, where I was in charge of foresight and speeches. I then joined a startup incubator, in order to support young people in the development of their activity and today I advise companies and public institutions, while actively pursuing my work in philosophy. One foot in each world to try to gradually build bridges between them, - hybridizations -, despite their apparent contradictions and their difficulty in dialogue ...


I define myself as a centaur because this "half man and half horse" figure is par excellence that of hybridization. This is why I dedicated my philosophy thesis to centaurs, as well as this essay "All Centaurs!" In praise of hybridization "(Le Pommier, 2020). For me, hybridization is not a simple research project, I live it intimately and I see it as a vision of the world, a social project that I would like to help build.



Our world has been built around a traditional functioning in silos, in an extremely fragmented way. Why ?

In the West, we have developed a remarkable tool for building science, but a formidable one for tackling reality; namely, rationality. While it was originally very useful for better understanding the world around us, it is clear that it has stiffened over the centuries. It looks like a sort of factory for the massive production of boxes, each one more rigid than the other. Its operation is simple: we identify (that is to say, we assign an identity or we stick a label, which amounts to the same thing), we sort and we classify. This is how we organize people, things, situations, professions, territories or even generations, in boxes. We do not know how to approach the world other than through the prism of identity and labels ... We are completely disconcerted, when we are confronted with the unstoppable, - that scares us, because it is unpredictable -, and at best , we ignore it, at worst, we reject it or try to suppress it ...


If there is a crisis today, it is indeed that of our relation to reality, which, by definition, is hybrid, and even more and more hybrid. When are we going to stop being afraid of this hybridity and when will we manage to approach the world differently, by accepting it as it is?



Your book, "All Centaurs! A Praise of Hybridization" is a true hymn to hybridization. Can you define the term for us?


My book is an invitation to come to terms with reality, thanks to this hybrid thought. The hybrid is that which is motley, contradictory, mixed, elusive; that's all that does not fit into our boxes.Hybridization is the improbable marriage, that is to say the meeting between things, people, professions, ideas, worlds radically different.


For a meeting to take place, for the hybridization to really take place, we must not only juxtapose them, we must work on their reciprocal metamorphosis to give rise to a third-thing, a third-character, a third-profession, a third-party, a third-use, a third-world.


Cooks know this by heart, because that is precisely what is at work in food preparation: how to cook ingredients together, without them losing their taste or without the flavor of one taking precedence. that of the other? The art of the cook, in my opinion, is to achieve this hybridization that will allow all foods to "augment" each other. In other words, what I mean by "hybridization" has absolutely nothing to do with the sad trivialization of this term, currently used to designate a meeting, training or event, face-to-face or remote! Hybridization, you will understand, is a thousand times richer than that!


We observe an acceleration of this hybridization in the offers, the places, the marketing networks, the professions,… how to explain this movement?

The world is indeed more and more hybrid and this great trend affects almost all areas of our life: objects (my hybrid phone uses, functions and activities), cities are becoming green, third places are multiplying, art invites itself where we did not expect it, etc. In my opinion, this hybridization that we are witnessing is a positive sign that we are starting to tame our fear of the unbreakable and that we are finally ready to give up our reassuring old categories.


The health crisis has accelerated this trend even further, but it was at work long before the virus arrived in our lives. This accelerating hybridization may make us optimistic about the future!



How can this movement be a great opportunity for our society and how can we take it individually?

If we assume that a station is a station or that a museum is a museum, we will never get out of the silos! But if we are ready to redefine those old huts, then we will have painting exhibitions in stations, in the streets, in shops, and there will be real equality in access to culture. What if retirement homes were also startup incubators? What if restaurants were also schools or vegetable gardens? It is only if places, trades, equipment, shops, hybridize by offering different uses, that there can be a real social mix, real intergenerational solidarity, sustainable economic developments, and of course , a more respectful relationship with nature. By putting things, activities and people in boxes (for example, the elderly with the elderly in retirement homes), we do not realize that we are causing fractures in society. This tendency to hybridize our society is therefore an extraordinary opportunity for each of us, because by breaking our boxes, we will finally be able to build bridges instead of artificially building walls between generations, sectors, the places or even the uses.


Individually, one becomes a centaur, when one is ready to "cast one's anchor as far as possible", in the words of the philosopher Elias Canetti, towards what seems most radically different from oneself. Many restaurateurs, for example, very courageously, have been extraordinarily creative since the start of the health crisis, by transforming their restaurant into a grocery store, by making partnerships with supermarkets, by taking a step towards street food: we can still go further in the hybridization, there are a thousand things to invent, a thousand improbable marriages to be made in the field of restoration, as in all other fields!



Finally, why does the way we speak of the "world after" make no sense?

During the first lockdown, everyone was talking about the world after; during the second confinement, everyone was talking about the world before ... Proof that "this singing tomorrow" and that we bet on all our ideals made no sense! If you look closely at the wishes for this world afterwards, you will see that they were all attempts to lock it in the boxes of the past. Until we come to terms with our old categories, we will not come to terms with reality, and that is what it is. We have built our lives around our fear of the unpredictable. The whole history of humanity is one of repression, of rejection, of the attempt to eliminate the unknown, of everything that cannot fit into our boxes a priori. The next world will not happen by spontaneous generation: it's time to get down to business and learn how to all be centaurs!


To find the interview in French, visit the Stripfood website: https://www.stripfood.fr/lhybridation-de-notre-societe-est-une-extraordinaire-opportunite-pour-construire-des-ponts-entre-les-generations-les-secteurs-les-lieux-ou-encore-les-usages-gabrielle-halpern/